This podcast, hosted by Luo Yonghao, features an in-depth interview with film director Bi Gan, focusing on his personal growth experiences, literary enlightenment, and filmmaking journey. Bi Gan shares his unique childhood in Kaili, a small town in Guizhou, and the introverted personality and independent thinking skills formed under his grandmother's strict behavioral control and intellectual freedom. He recounts his journey from accidentally encountering literature to being inspired by a film teacher in college to dedicate himself to film, and details the arduous production process of his early short films and feature film 'Kaili Blues,' including funding shortages, team collaboration, the challenges of long take shooting, and how he achieved success through self-media promotion. The conversation also touches on his views on the competition between movies and short videos, his understanding of the boundaries between art films and commercial films, and his ambitious plans for future creations. Luo Yonghao, as the host, also shares his appreciation for Bi Gan's work and his thoughts on the film industry, showcasing the distinctive and insightful perspectives of both guests on art and life.